# Geolocation Service is Discontinued **URL:** \ **Category:** Using Concrete / Help\ **Created:** [September 1, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403 "2025-09-01T02:05:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jero](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/jero/32/5306_2.png) [@jero](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/jero)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/1 "2025-09-01T02:05:48Z")
I had a couple of clients report that their sites were stalling on a couple of functions using Geolocation, and now that I’ve gone in to that part of the dashboard and run the test, it’s telling me: ![image](https://forums.concretecms.org/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4f412ddcd0e8aefb257b95fac274b2f0a1ccd93d.png) ---
**Author:** ![TMDesigns](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/tmdesigns/32/4261_2.png) [@TMDesigns](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/TMDesigns)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/2 "2025-09-01T08:15:05Z")
It looks like this is no longer a free service. **geoPlugin API** is no longer available for free use. To continue access, please upgrade to a paid plan by clicking You could get a paid sub for it then tweak the code to implement the API key or submit a Git hub error and see what @frz and @andrew want to do with this service. ---
**Author:** ![JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/johnthefish/32/3767_2.png) [@JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/JohntheFish)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/3 "2025-09-01T08:49:58Z")
Confirm the problem ```auto { "geoplugin_status":403, "geoplugin_message": "geoPlugin API is no longer available for free use. To continue access, please upgrade to a paid plan", "geoplugin_url": "https://www.geoplugin.com/subscription" } ``` ---
**Author:** ![TMDesigns](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/tmdesigns/32/4261_2.png) [@TMDesigns](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/TMDesigns)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/4 "2025-09-01T08:52:15Z")
I see you have added this > > > \### Affected Version of Concrete CMS > > 9.x > > \### Description > > Sometime in the last… couple of days, the Geolocation Services started getting this response: > > Request to geoPlugin failed: Client error: \`GET http://www.geoplugin.net/json.gp?ip=150.237.16.2\` resulted in a \`403 Forbidden\` response: { "geoplugin\_status":403, "geoplugin\_message": "geoPlugin API is no longer available for free use. To continue acces (truncated...) (error code: 5) > > \### How to reproduce > > Navigate to index.php/dashboard/system/environment/geolocation > Click Test > Click Test > > Message appears: > > \Image > > \### Possible Solution > > \_No response\_ > > \### Additional Context > > \_No response\_ ---
**Author:** ![JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/johnthefish/32/3767_2.png) [@JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/JohntheFish)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/5 "2025-09-01T10:37:48Z")
This service is free and simple. Good for a quick fix. [https://ipquery.io/](https://ipquery.io/) Probably best to cache results as the core service does. ---
**Author:** ![mlocati](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/mlocati/32/6208_2.png) [@mlocati](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/mlocati)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/6 "2025-09-01T11:48:13Z")
Here’s a list of services that provide geolocation info without requiring any registration: - [ip-api.com](https://ip-api.com/) Domain creation date: 2012-04-24 Rate limit: 45 requests/minute Example: [http://ip-api.com/json/8.8.8.8](http://ip-api.com/json/8.8.8.8) - [ipquery.io](https://ipquery.io/) Domain creation date: 2024-08-05 (too young?) Rate limit: I can’t find any in the docs Example: [https://api.ipquery.io/8.8.8.8](https://api.ipquery.io/8.8.8.8) (does not provide state/province codes) - [ipwhois.io](https://ipwhois.io/) Domain creation date: 2016-09-30 Rate limit: 10,000 requests/month Example: [https://ipwho.is/8.8.8.8](https://ipwho.is/8.8.8.8) ---
**Author:** ![JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/johnthefish/32/3767_2.png) [@JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/JohntheFish)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/7 "2025-09-01T12:11:38Z")
> [@mlocati](#): > > Example: [http://ip-api.com/json/8.8.8.8](http://ip-api.com/json/8.8.8.8) ```auto {"status":"fail","message":"SSL unavailable for this endpoint, order a key at https://members.ip-api.com/"} ``` [ipquery.io](http://ipquery.io) and [ipwhois.io](http://ipwhois.io) both worked for me. ---
**Author:** ![mlocati](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/mlocati/32/6208_2.png) [@mlocati](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/mlocati)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/8 "2025-09-01T12:26:30Z")
Maybe your browser is trying to automatically use HTTPS instead of HTTP? ---
**Author:** ![JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/johnthefish/32/3767_2.png) [@JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/JohntheFish)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/9 "2025-09-01T12:35:17Z")
yes, that was it. All now work for me. ---
**Author:** ![mlocati](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/mlocati/32/6208_2.png) [@mlocati](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/mlocati)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/10 "2025-09-01T15:12:21Z")
More on this: 1. The [terms of ip-api](https://ip-api.com/docs/legal) are rather restrictive: 2. The Terms of Service link of [ipquery.io](http://ipquery.io) points nowhere (its target is `#`). Given that, I’d go with [ipwhois.io](http://ipwhois.io)… ---
**Author:** ![mlocati](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/mlocati/32/6208_2.png) [@mlocati](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/mlocati)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/11 "2025-09-01T15:42:16Z")
> [@mlocati](#): > > Given that, I’d go with [ipwhois.io](http://ipwhois.io)… Nope, even [ipwhois.io](http://ipwhois.io) doesn’t allow commercial use of the free plan… ---
**Author:** ![JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/johnthefish/32/3767_2.png) [@JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/JohntheFish)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/12 "2025-09-01T16:28:19Z")
Github account for [ipquery.io](http://ipquery.io/) says ‘free’ in multiple places with no other terms. > **[ipqwery - Repositories](https://github.com/ipqwery?tab=repositories)** > > Official Github account for IPQuery.io | A Free IP Address API Built for Developers - ipqwery ---
**Author:** ![mlocati](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/mlocati/32/6208_2.png) [@mlocati](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/mlocati)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/13 "2025-09-01T17:43:15Z")
I’ve opened an issue: see [Missing Terms of service · Issue #3 · ipqwery/Bugs · GitHub](https://github.com/ipqwery/Bugs/issues/3) ---
**Author:** ![jero](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/jero/32/5306_2.png) [@jero](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/jero)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/14 "2025-09-01T21:32:15Z")
I’ve sometimes found the now apparently restricted [geoplugin.net](http://geoplugin.net) API to be a bit flaky on occasion, or maybe having dozens of Concrete sites on the same server causes offence. Fortunately in a couple of cases, I’d rolled out @mlocati ‘s excellent MaxMind addon [Geolocation with MaxMind GeoIP2 :: Concrete CMS Marketplace](https://market.concretecms.com/products/f64bd29a-d72e-11ee-b9df-0a97d4ce16b9) addon, and this has saved my bacon. Clearly, it’s not a solution for the core due to the need for an account/key, but hopefully, if anyone reading this needs a quick fix, here’s one that worked for me. ---
**Author:** ![JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/johnthefish/32/3767_2.png) [@JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/JohntheFish)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2025, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/15 "2025-09-02T08:48:03Z")
Here’s another free service (as far as I can tell) [https://geoip.fortnic.com/](https://geoip.fortnic.com/) ---
**Author:** ![JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/user_avatar/forums.concretecms.org/johnthefish/32/3767_2.png) [@JohntheFish](https://forums.concretecms.org/u/JohntheFish)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.concretecms.org/t/geolocation-service-is-discontinued/9403/16 "2025-10-30T16:50:17Z")
@frz - can you make this a topic for the next town hall please.